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The whole saga of Markus Jooste and Steinhof caught me totally by surprise. Firstly, I was an investor in Steinhof, but sold my shares in 2015. I made good money in Steinhof shares because the first time I bought they were at R11 and I sold them at about R27. Subsequently they went the whole way up to R70 and I think now they are back at about R5.
Unlike a lot of people who say all sorts of things about Markus, I actually knew Markus very well. I bought the same watch he had, after sending him an e-mail about what watch he was wearing, because I happen to like it, and I spent 6 years on the Racing Association Committee with him. That would mean that I was one of 6 people who would sit in meetings six times a year with Markus for 4 or 5 hours a time. In other words, I did not just bump into him at a horseracing meeting and speak to him for 30 minutes but I have probably spent 150 to 200 hours of my life in the same meetings and same rooms as Markus, generally in a small group of 6 people.
I can still say, whether that is embarrassing or not, he is the most intimidating and intelligent man I have ever come across. What that has led to and what it is that he has allegedly done, I don’t know, but I can only tell you that he is exceptionally intelligent and if, for example, he started talking about company law or certain fields of law, I as a lawyer would very quickly realise he knew a lot more than any lawyers I know on those topics. I know from friends that a number of other South African billionaires who knew Markus, including those who invested with him such as Christo Wiese, also considered Markus the most intelligent man that they had ever known. I don’t know what comes next in the story, I don’t know what the future holds and I don’t know whether this is outright fraud or a manipulation of tax laws. What is obvious is that whatever it is, flew right over the heads of the South African authorities and the only reason this has come out and the only reason there is a problem is because Steinhof is also listed on the German Stock Exchange. I wonder, if they had stayed on the South African Stock Exchange whether any of whatever it is, and at the moment everybody is just speculating, would ever have come out? When you read books like The President’s Keepers, all you do is read about how so many institutions of State had been absolutely destroyed by Zuma and his cronies and would not be capable of investigating some white collar crime, if that is what this is.
Posted by Michael de Broglio on Thursday 22-Feb-18
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Michelle said:
on Monday 05-Mar-18 09:12 AM
There are so many people who are corrupt these days and also so much fraud happens. We can just hope not to be part of any without knowing. These people will have get justice one day. You can’t always get away with the wrong things.
Zindy said:
on Friday 02-Mar-18 08:18 AM
Even if you don't get caught Karma will catch up to you. Rather live an honest life and have peace of mind that your doing the best you can than lie and cheat your way through life fearing what will be your next move.
Sharne said:
on Friday 02-Mar-18 07:29 AM
He probably thought he was smart enough to get away with it.No matter how intelligent you are if you don't put it to a good use it will catch up on you.
Ashleigh said:
on Thursday 01-Mar-18 04:37 PM
No matter how intelligent you are, you can still get caught. It must be so draining to keep up with lies and corruption that you eventually give yourself away anyway. Maybe some people think they were invincible but no one is.
Joyce said:
on Wednesday 28-Feb-18 04:59 PM
I think it’s not nice to hear scandals about people you rated high standards or heroes
Liz said:
on Wednesday 28-Feb-18 01:54 PM
It is unfortunate to think that such a brilliant mind has used it to ultimately destroy a reputable company such as Steinhoff, whereas a person of such high intellect and authority could have put his mind to good use in order to grow the company in a legal and ethical manner. I agree that highly intelligent people might often get bored and try to find ways to mislead others, as they are certain they are too intelligent and superior to be caught out.
Jadine E said:
on Wednesday 28-Feb-18 07:21 AM
You will never truly know a person their intelligence might impress but their agendas towards money stays hidden.
Daniella said:
on Tuesday 27-Feb-18 02:22 PM
It really is quite weird how you will never truly know someone. The scandal will always out way everything else. it must be quite interesting to see everything unfold especially when you know him personally.
Sarah said:
on Tuesday 27-Feb-18 01:18 PM
I agree with a lot of people comments below His greed got the best of him. Markus Jooste lost a lot of people money and a lot of pensioners too. He has done al ot fo damage to his business partner as well. Christo Wiese on the hook for over R200 million
Angelique said:
on Tuesday 27-Feb-18 07:46 AM
People of his stature get out of most things but every 'crook' or alleged 'crook' must get his day. Now we know where all the money for sponsorship's came from. People no longer want to be associated to him. I'm sure for him it was fun while it lasted.
Jadine Richards said:
on Monday 26-Feb-18 10:57 AM
He was just probably too intelligent for his own good. He must have recognized ways and loopholes to get ahead in the system and just thought that he would be able to pull it off . However, unfortunately for Steinhoff and all of their shareholders, the rest of the world is not as incompetent as the SA authorities.
patrick said:
on Monday 26-Feb-18 09:29 AM
Am sure he thought he is capable of fooling the whole world! now his intelligence got him into trouble.
Bianca R said:
on Monday 26-Feb-18 08:29 AM
It's so common these days that extremely intelligent people will not just use their intelligence to do good, but to enrich themselves through any dodgy means necessary. It is extremely unfortunate that someone who as you say, was so intelligent and who could have been someone to look up to, will now just basically be someone who you shouldn't be like. The accountancy industry has certainly not had a good time the last couple of months!
Megan said:
on Friday 23-Feb-18 04:45 PM
Before all of this, with all the power and knowledge he attained, you could definitely say he was a role model and someone looked to for advise. Power can change peoples mindsets and intentions obviously but yes maybe he did it for the thrill.
Liat Grindler said:
on Friday 23-Feb-18 04:23 PM
I think there is a link between the perception that Markus created and his actions. Sometimes it is the impression a person makes that allows him or her to see the loop holes in the law and, within time, use those loop holes to their advantage. I definitely think that the energy of a person and his/her behavior does have manipulating aspects to it and without the outside knowing it, he or she will benefit at the end of the day.
Alexis said:
on Thursday 22-Feb-18 03:32 PM
Must admit that I know nothing of the above and most likely live in a hole. However I agree with a few people below and people whom are greedy as well tend to mess up and look at where you end up. Jess' point of view with regards to the immediate resignation says a lot as well. I suppose as well it is quite something as well when you personally in a way knew the person
Mathilda Du Preez said:
on Thursday 22-Feb-18 01:55 PM
Money isn't the root of all Evil, Greed is.
You get two types of Rich people the one who is humble and make their money the honest way and you get the one who is rich beyond measure and think they are untouchable and will do anything to have more, and sometimes that includes being not as honest and fair
But most of the time it comes back to haunt them
Tamaryn said:
on Thursday 22-Feb-18 10:08 AM
There have been many highly intelligent businessmen in the past who have gotten involved in fraud on some level. It's almost as though they either become bored and seek more of a thrill or they truly believe they are smarter than anyone else and will never be caught. I tend to wonder if these types become hugely successful because of their intellect and business minds or because of the fraud.
Natasha said:
on Thursday 22-Feb-18 09:04 AM
Its crazy to know you spend about 150 to 200 hours with Markus and now all off this comes out.Well one thing for sure is the fact that people cant do what they want they cant get away with fraud or corruption,as it always has a way to come out.
Nina said:
on Thursday 22-Feb-18 08:56 AM
Although at this stage it is just speculation, it is actually great to see that people are not getting away with corruption and fraud anymore. It doesn't matter how big or well known the company or person is, it always comes out. I hope people will learn a lesson out of this, as well as the KPMG saga. Slim vang sy baas.
Bianca N said:
on Thursday 22-Feb-18 08:34 AM
It must be a very unreal feeling knowing that you have met with this person and spoke to them for a few hours of your life and then hear or see on the news that they are involved in such a scandal. It is such a pity when someone so intelligent with so much potential makes a decision that could ruin their life forever, not to mention the other people's lives that are affected by this.
Michelle D said:
on Thursday 22-Feb-18 08:29 AM
The Steinhoff fiasco took everyone by surprise I think. Before this whole situation unwinded Steinhoff shares were regarded as a pretty safe investment. The problem with excessive intelligence is the belief that you are too beyond everyone to be caught out. His is reaction to his "financial irregularities," being his resignation, indicates that his involvement in Steinhoff's shady finances are more than mere speculation. That being said, his resignation may have drawn attention away from and consequently saved the various other people involved. (It is impossible that no one else in a company accountants had any idea of what was going on). In this sense his resignation acted as a scape goat for others.
Jessica Apfel said:
on Thursday 22-Feb-18 08:05 AM
It may very well be 'speculation', however when an intelligent man such as himself resigns with immediate effect, one is left asking serious questions? An admirable person, would allow the requisite procedures to unfold and give effect to due procedure? Just a thought!
Steinhoff’s share price has sunk by 72.35% so far this year!!!
david said:
on Thursday 22-Feb-18 08:01 AM
doubt whether christo has much good to say about markus any more, he lost a couple of billion as i recall...
Johannesburg based attorney specializing in personal injury matters including Road Accident Fund claims and medical negligence matters. My interests include golf, reading and the internet and the way it is constantly developing. I have a passion for life and a desire for less stress!