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Covid-19 and death statistics

I wrote some time ago it will take some years before we discover the true number of people that have died.  Sadly, we all fall into the trap of saying that things are not so bad, or that the statistics have improved.  We ignore the fact that even in advanced countries, like the United States, not everyone is getting tested.  Statistics indicate that in America the average number of deaths for this year so far is running at about 40,000 higher than the normal deaths plus Covid-19 death.  So there are an extra 40 000 dead this year so far, but not accounted for in Covid-19 deaths.  In other words, what that means is that the American death toll, currently at approximately 215,000 from Covid-19 is more than likely to be really 255,000 or maybe people are just dropping dead from unusual conditions this year?

The bottom line is, if countries like America can’t even get their statistics right, what are the odds that those statistics are really correct in South Africa?  When I wrote about this before I said that it will only be in 3 or 4 years’ time, in most countries, that they will know the true death toll, and that the death toll at any given time will be higher than what we think it is.  Based on American statistics we know that the SA statistic must probably be at least 20% more people that died than the figure we are given on a daily basis – currently at 18 500.

 

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Tersia  said:
on Thursday 12-Nov-20 11:35 AM
If I have to be totally honest I also don't think that ALL the deaths they make out to be are from COVID are really the truth. The stats will never be correct because the tests were also never really accurate in the first place.

Melandre'  said:
on Thursday 12-Nov-20 09:16 AM
Frankly I believe Covid was a scare tactic to dominate and control the economy. there is a higher power play at work. On my flight to Durban I sat next to a Dr, whom informed me that even when a person passes away from any flu or had similar symptoms at the time of death to those displayed with Covid patient even if the symptoms were secondary to the predominant reason for death they must declare the patient passed away from Covid. So honestly then, how accurate are the statistics?

Shristi  said:
on Thursday 12-Nov-20 07:36 AM
Undoubtedly our stats are incorrect and unfortunately we will never know the actual stats

Brenda Strydom  said:
on Thursday 12-Nov-20 07:32 AM
I don't believe our statistics of the Covid-19 Pandemic at all. We will never know the True calculations in South Africa.

Colleen  said:
on Wednesday 11-Nov-20 03:37 PM
Our statistics are definitely not accurate and I think that co-morbidities are being labelled as the cause of death with many covid-19 cases.

Jolene   said:
on Wednesday 11-Nov-20 02:32 PM
Our statistics are definitely not accurate. I don't think we will ever know the real numbers. Many deaths from other causes are simply labelled as Covid deaths.

Luchell  said:
on Wednesday 11-Nov-20 01:05 PM
I don't think that the statistics for the Covid-19 Pandemic will ever be correct especially the death toll and I don't think we will every know the real statistics for the pandemic.

Kathryn  said:
on Wednesday 11-Nov-20 12:39 PM
I think that the 'grey' area in the statistics relating to the deaths caused by COVID-19 will be large, as many comments state below. Perhaps we will never know the true death toll.

Lucretia  said:
on Wednesday 11-Nov-20 09:12 AM
I would love to know how may are actual Covid deaths and how many are deaths that would have happened regardless and they are putting it down to Covid. I don't know how true this is but, I have heard that for each Covid death, the WHO is paying a % to the government in all countries. If this is true, then again I go back to, "how many are actual Covid deaths". If the rumours are untrue then I would love an article on the blog about that and why the rumours simply cannot be true......

Victoria  said:
on Wednesday 11-Nov-20 08:56 AM
I agree that the stats aren't correct and also agree that not everyone is being tested. We will only know the true stats in years to come.

Nikita  said:
on Wednesday 11-Nov-20 08:54 AM
I agree that the numbers in South Africa are far from correct. I was speaking to some doctors that I met at a family braai and they were saying that even if a patient comes in for a gunshot and dies from complications of that gunshot they will be tested for COVID and if they test positive their death certificate will read "Cause of Death - COVID19". So there can never truly be an accurate figure one way or another.

Cornelie  said:
on Wednesday 11-Nov-20 08:51 AM
That is insane scary also I think we wont ever know what is the real figure for Postive Covid cases. But also is those figures and deaths realy covid and or was covid just a contrubtion to it.

Nicolle  said:
on Wednesday 11-Nov-20 08:47 AM
Indeed, I don't think there will ever be an accurate number in terms of this world event. It is unfortunate, and, if I am frank, I would just like for us to get on with it. Every morning the sun rises, every evening the sun sets, and I don't think we can wait forever to just get on with it. Life is for the living.

Tamaryn   said:
on Friday 06-Nov-20 04:53 PM
SA's statistics must be incredibly out if places like the US haven't even got their statistics spot on. I don't think we'll know the true extent at all in SA.

Kayla  said:
on Friday 06-Nov-20 02:53 PM
I have heard of a few cases where people have passed away due to other causes not related to COVID 19, however, when the death certificate is received they have indicated cause of death to be COVID 19. I think that we have a tremendous amount of cases like these which is misleading just to increase the statistics for COVID?

Ruby  said:
on Tuesday 03-Nov-20 11:15 PM
Why aren’t statistics divided between Covid deaths due to the virus versus deaths with the virus. The Press is misleading as usual.

Prishani  said:
on Tuesday 03-Nov-20 04:57 PM
I have always worried about the stats and how they accurately keep track! I always had a feeling that they could not possibly be 100% correct.

Sinead  said:
on Tuesday 03-Nov-20 11:20 AM
Why is it that not everyone is getting tested?
We are advised not to get tested if we do not have symptoms.
If you come into contact with someone who has tested positive, I think it is best to get tested. That way at least you know for sure... What if you are asymptomatic? You will never know!
This virus was really just a way to slow the economy down and gain control of the minds of the people.

sarah  said:
on Tuesday 03-Nov-20 09:09 AM
I don't believe the statics are true, I heard people died in a car accident and the hospital list it as COVID.We just have to wait and see what happens in a few years time

Ashleigh  said:
on Tuesday 03-Nov-20 08:54 AM
The stats are an estimation more then actual stats. I am really not too sure what to believe with this COVID story anymore.

Melissa van Tellingen  said:
on Tuesday 03-Nov-20 08:43 AM
I don't think that the certain patients deaths are caused by Covid alone but of course the media will try and make it seem as if it is. The statistics will for ever be inaccurate.

Mathilda  said:
on Monday 02-Nov-20 12:01 PM
We will never know the true amount of deaths, that was caused by COVID.

I agree with Patrick that COVID was over sold and just a way of slowing down economic growth.

Helen  said:
on Saturday 31-Oct-20 09:27 PM
When will this pandemic will be over?
The infected numbers of people are increasing every day and still people are not wearing their masks in public. Total number of deaths are getting close to 20 000 in South Africa and I would agree that we do not even know what actual stats are currently?

Lourien Nell  said:
on Friday 30-Oct-20 03:53 PM
The current stats are definitely not accurate and I am not sure if they will ever be able to reflect the correct amount of deaths.

Franzelle  said:
on Friday 30-Oct-20 02:31 PM
I agree the covid status is not right. When last you heard someone dead to heart attack or cancer all you hear is covid 19.I think it's going to take a long time before everything is normal again in all the countries

Bianca Taljaard  said:
on Friday 30-Oct-20 02:15 PM
I think everyone knows that the stats we are getting is not correct. Covid is a joke to the majority of people.

Jessica  said:
on Friday 30-Oct-20 12:52 PM
Well I guess my opinion here is that we might as well carry on as normal. This is the same as when the flu first hit same thing. Now look at us we don't even flinch at the thought of the flu.

brumilde  said:
on Friday 30-Oct-20 12:12 PM
Covid is not to be taken lightly. if countries did not act it would have been much worse. I also dont think SA's statistics are correct

Zindy  said:
on Friday 30-Oct-20 07:37 AM
I don't believe that the stats are close to correct. Many people that have had Covid probably did not even know as the people that have had it that we have heard from have walked away with a headache and maybe a stuffy nose which many would just think its change of season sinus or so. The numbers however they predicted are far less than expected so there is light at the end of the tunnel. But to soon to let your guard down and say its nothing to worry about still practice precautionary measures.

thembi  said:
on Thursday 29-Oct-20 06:06 PM
I am happy that at least there are not many cases and if there is, there is at least not too many deaths

sandra  said:
on Thursday 29-Oct-20 06:05 PM
Things will take a long time before things go back to normal. Luckily there are more recoveries than there are deaths.

Alexis  said:
on Wednesday 28-Oct-20 09:29 AM
Things will not be 100%, that will take some time to have the true figures established. Right now, the odds are not too bad with more recoveries than deaths, and although easily spreadable, we are far more equipped than what they were in 1918. I think that if the bird flu was as contagious, then we would be singing a different tune as at least 70% of people who contract that will die according to statistics.

Brenda Strydom  said:
on Tuesday 27-Oct-20 07:10 AM
I don't think our statistics will ever be 100% correct. I also don't believe the COVID Testing results is correct as well. I just wish that everything can go back to normal again.

fikile  said:
on Monday 26-Oct-20 02:13 PM
Lately the is no more talk about other viruses that people have or get and now days it's all about corvid, even when people die they say it's corvid, people are sick they have corvid when are we going to start taking other viruses as serious as corvid?. It's yet again back and the is talk that we might move back to Level 3 in December because now people are thinking that the corvid is finished and most people want to see the person who has the corvid for them to believe that it is the.

Megan  said:
on Monday 26-Oct-20 09:33 AM
Everything is just a money making scheme, how can an antibody test be R200 telling us we've HAD Covid but we have to pay R850 to find out if we HAVE Covid? So many people can't afford to get tested and its probably easier to say people are dying of Covid than Cancer, Accidents etc, that's why we don't have accurate stats here.

Daniella  said:
on Monday 26-Oct-20 08:56 AM
the statistics will never be accurate because of the amount of people that don't test or the fact that all tests are in arrears when calculating the stats. I'm looking forward to all of this being over.

Melissa  said:
on Friday 23-Oct-20 12:13 PM
We will never know the exact statistics. I just wish things can go back to normal in SA

Lauren  said:
on Friday 23-Oct-20 10:10 AM
This is very accurate. Our statistics are more likely incorrect. Covid testing is also inaccessible to many in our country due to the cost.

Dasanya  said:
on Friday 23-Oct-20 09:44 AM
I agree with this, it will be a couple of years before we will actually know the true reality of the Covid19 deaths. I would imagine it to quite a massive task ensuring that each and every person gets tested especially with some living in denial that we're faced with a pandemic currently!

Chante  said:
on Thursday 22-Oct-20 11:45 AM
It is true that the statistics cannot be 100% accurate at this time, there will still be more deaths relating to COVID-19 so the statistics cannot be calculated correctly and as you say it will take some time to get the correct statistics of deaths.

Claudia B  said:
on Wednesday 21-Oct-20 05:00 PM
I don't think our statistics will ever be 100% correct in South Africa. Not everyone can afford to do the Covid test, not everyone wants to do the test.

Kendall  said:
on Wednesday 21-Oct-20 12:47 PM
We will never know the true statistics. Many people who have been infected with covid have not even been tested. Furthermore, many peoples deaths from other chronic illnesses are simply labelled as covid deaths.

Henrietta  said:
on Wednesday 21-Oct-20 10:16 AM
Absolute truth, we'll never know the true statistics. I also don't believe the current data we have in South Africa is correct. Like you said, if USA doesn't have correct sata how in the world would we have the correct data. Let's see how long we wait....

Natasha  said:
on Wednesday 21-Oct-20 09:12 AM
We will never know what the true statistics is. Every time someone dies the cause of death is Covid , so if its true we will never know.

Ziyanda  said:
on Tuesday 20-Oct-20 04:15 PM
I don't think we will actually receive the correct statistics because even if people die from chronic diseases they are labelled as COVID deaths.

Tayla  said:
on Tuesday 20-Oct-20 01:31 PM
We will never know the true numbers. The numbers are not showing true reflections and probably are counted wrong to start with.

Danielle  said:
on Monday 19-Oct-20 04:55 PM
I guess we will never know the correct number of deaths.

Covid 19 is yet just another sickness yes it kills but so does cancer, Aids and many more.

Life needs to carry on.

Patrick Sedutla  said:
on Monday 19-Oct-20 04:39 PM
Covid 19 was over sold. It was a way of slowing down economic growth. Countries like us in deep trouble and will take forever to grow.

Nicolene  said:
on Monday 19-Oct-20 12:00 PM
We will never know the correct statistics. I think now if you die the cause of death will show Covid even if you actually died from Cancer. So yeah, we'll never know the truth and that is actually so sad.

Roxanne Rautenbach  said:
on Monday 19-Oct-20 11:04 AM
Its sad to see the numbers, however in SA I've heard of suicides and natural deaths marked as Covid, so basically in SA we'll never know the true number of covid deaths.

Clare  said:
on Monday 19-Oct-20 09:13 AM
This is very Sad, but i truly believe that this world has bigger problems to deal with then to worry about Covid-19. I do really wish that this can become a thing of the past now.

Bianca Niemann   said:
on Monday 19-Oct-20 08:55 AM
We will never truly know the death toll of Covid19. The impact that we know of is already tragic, I cannot imagine the circumstances and stories as well as the death rate we do not know.

david  said:
on Monday 19-Oct-20 07:16 AM
i'm sorry, but unless COVID suddenly wipes out half the world population, i'm over it.
over sold, and under delivered.
there are still loads of fat old people wandering about.
covid? pfft... who cares?

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